Fill me in on E36 scrunchy butts.

"The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock" (jukesjukesjukes) 07/15/2019 at 01:30 • Filed to: When you have a unreliable Nissan look at 20 year old BMWs

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I know they use E30 rear suspension, more oversteer prone (not a issue with me). The most light E36, decent after market, seems like a good recipe for fun. They are 80% of a Miata for 50% of used Miata prices.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 01:48

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Basically, they say the suspension is the same as the E30.

Do not buy one that was owned in a hot climate and not garaged. The interior literally falls apart, brittle crappy plastic.

Always liked these, I wonder if I should have bought the M-sport near me with 110k miles, five grand. But that was years ago...

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 07/15/2019 at 01:53

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At the time it was their affordable/base model, so they had cheap out somewhere. The interior got that treatment. There is one that's $2500 close-ish, kms are a little high but it looks good. 

Alfalfa > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 04:32

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What's this about filling in your scrunchy butt?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 07/15/2019 at 07:48

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“ Do not buy one that was owned in a hot climate and not garaged. The interior literally falls apart, brittle crappy plastic.”-Literally all BMW’s from the 90's

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 07:49

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The Miata would probably be the best option.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 08:05

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We have a pair of M3 swapped 318tis at the drift school and they make you feel like a drifting God. The platform on these is so good, very smooth and predictable. That  said I have never driven one with the original 4 cylinder. I highly recommend them but at the end of the day they are a 20+ year old BMW and will have expected old German car issues that you wouldn't have with a Miata.

I believe the front end is E36/E46 while the rear end is E30 but I may be wrong on that. E30/E36/E46 are all so closely related to begin with so it doesn't really matter.

pizzaman09 > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 08:31

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Its hard to go wrong with any e36, and the 318ti is no exception. I have an M3 Coupe and a 328is, but always wanted a 4 cylinder as the low power ones are the most fun to thrash around. The M40/42/44 engines are good fun and with the high gearing these havr from the factory, are surprisingly spunky.

I recommend finding one of the rare California top models if you like sun on your head.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/15/2019 at 08:48

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You're not wrong. The issue being right now used Miatas (NA & NB) are up in price. A same condition Ti is 1/2 the price of equal Miatas. 

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 08:56

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Right, and if you on a budget, the Miata parts are 1/2 the price of the 318ti

Party-vi > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 08:56

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heißer Müll

Nauraushaun > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 09:12

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I don’t have much info. But my ex had one years ago and I liked it. Good memories rolling around with the sunroof open. They’re small, rwd and sprightly.

MultiplaOrgasms > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 09:26

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They suck, get a 190

glemon > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 09:28

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My brother has had one for years and is pretty fond of it, I think it may be pushing 200 thousand miles and his son drives it now. He is often on the lookout to acquire another, looked at a clean, low miles, auto a few months back. I told him the auto would kill the appeal and performance , after driving it he said I was righ t.

Here is a red one I saw just a day or two ago.

It looked pretty nice

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/15/2019 at 09:35

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All I really know about them is that there’s a rare cloth sunroof version:

Textured Soy Protein > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 07/15/2019 at 09:56

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The rear suspension is like the E30. Front is same as E36. 

Nick Has an Exocet > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/15/2019 at 13:55

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You can still find plenty of cheap NB’s and I just saw an immaculate 80k mile mariner blue NA go for $3k. As the Arch Duke pointed out, parts prices are good on Miatas and there’s less to go wrong. 

Eric Arrr > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/16/2019 at 00:33

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ti’s are awesome. Just about the only rwd hatchback you’ll find anywhere. You don’t see them every day but they still have the awesome parts availability of being an e36. Super easy to work on with tons of room in the engine bay.

As you probably know, they went from obd1 to obd2 in ‘96 when the engine went from the m42 to m44. Avoid the automatics, the auto box really dampens the car’s natural pep.

Two rare packages to be on the lookout for: the canvas-roofed California Edition, and a sport trim package identifiable by the wider horizontal body trim pieces. (The red car shown in another comment is such an example.)

The secret trick to making a ti look its best is, make the b-pillar disappear. In body color, the pillar interrupts the lines of the car and just looks awkward. If you tint the windows an paint/wrap the b pillar to match, the car takes on a much sleeker appearance.

ClownShoe > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 07/17/2019 at 01:46

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These and early 4 cylinder z3s were produced side by side. Both being parts bin cars. They came with m42/ m44 engines, some had lsd, e36 front suspension, e30 rear trailing arm and rear subframe. The z3s eventually received 6 cylinder options, these were only produced as a 4 cylinder.